Misha Glenny: Hire the hackers!

- anonymous: hacker who have a political agenda. They are providing a service to prove that security is useless. They are protecting the internet from the government.

- Demand of security vs. Freedom

- Hacker Profiler Project (UN operation)

- CarderPlanet by a group of Ukrainian hackers. Buy sell credit cards info. Supermarket for cyber criminal. Faced Challenge: How do you do business with the hackers?

-> The escrow system: (Stolen Credit Card #) Customer -> Officer -> Vendor (Money)

- 150,000 dollars/ week; not an advance programmer

- Hackers are only one element in the eco system. And the most vulnerable one.

- China and Russian are mobilizing hacker, making them to use.

Relentlessly obsessive about something. Just looking for a chance to work for something good.